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View Poll Results: IF YOU ARE IN AMBITIOUSR SHOES WHAT WILL YOU DO?
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Oando’s N54.6bn Rights Issue Opens, Articles | THISDAY LIVE
I beg anybody get details on this offer, such as the forecast for PAT and dividends and also will the new share to be issue in this offer qualify for dividend this 2013 in the FYE 2012
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I beg anybody get details on this offer, such as the forecast for PAT and dividends and also will the new share to be issue in this offer qualify for dividend this 2013 in the FYE 2012
Bros see the attached prospectus
Oando Plc Right Issue Prospectus 2012 - Proshare
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Bros see the attached prospectus
Oando Plc Right Issue Prospectus 2012 - Proshare
Oga bivins Thank you joor
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I beg anybody get details on this offer, such as the forecast for PAT and dividends and also will the new share to be issue in this offer qualify for dividend this 2013 in the FYE 2012
"The ordinary shares being issued shall rank pari passu in all respects with the existing issued Ordinary Shares of the Company and shall qualify for any dividend (or any other distribution) declared for the financial year ending 31 December, 2012, in so far as the qualification date for the dividend (or any other distribution) declared is after the allotment of the ordinary shares now being issued."
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This same company issued a rights issue exactly 3 years ago. They missed the forecast upside down. In the Jan 2010 rights issue the forecast was
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx2010xxxxxxxx2011xxxxxxxx2012
Turnover xx596,133,350 782,759,224 930,998,607
Gross Profit 94,232,995 152,620,708 184,575,147
PAT xxxxxxxx17,949,912 x41,531,566 x58,746,105
Dividend xxxxx4,484,727 xx5,744,329 xx6,216,661
In the current rights issue the 2010 & 2011 Actual and 2012 estimate are
Turnover xx 378,925,430 586,619,034 638,275,000
Gross Profit x 54,128,039 68,440,887 xx72,575,000
PAT xxxxxxxx 14,374,966 xx3,446,643 x11,741,000
Dividend xxxxx 2,114,019 xx5,430,508 xxxxxxxxx0

How can I sell my rights. This company has very poor management and will continue wasting shareholder funds. Though those entering now may not loose much as I think the price is very depressed.

The company is getting too complicated also.
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This same company issued a rights issue exactly 3 years ago. They missed the forecast upside down. In the Jan 2010 rights issue the forecast was
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx2010xxxxxxxx2011xxxxxxxx2012
Turnover xx596,133,350 782,759,224 930,998,607
Gross Profit 94,232,995 152,620,708 184,575,147
PAT xxxxxxxx17,949,912 x41,531,566 x58,746,105
Dividend xxxxx4,484,727 xx5,744,329 xx6,216,661
In the current rights issue the 2010 & 2011 Actual and 2012 estimate are
Turnover xx 378,925,430 586,619,034 638,275,000
Gross Profit x 54,128,039 68,440,887 xx72,575,000
PAT xxxxxxxx 14,374,966 xx3,446,643 x11,741,000
Dividend xxxxx 2,114,019 xx5,430,508 xxxxxxxxx0

How can I sell my rights. This company has very poor management and will continue wasting shareholder funds. Though those entering now may not loose much as I think the price is very depressed.

The company is getting too complicated also.
It's just a 'forge-cast'!!!! and you are still thinking about your Oando rights!
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It's just a 'forge-cast'!!!! and you are still thinking about your Oando rights!
LOL...bros, so N300 billion "disappeared" from the turnover estimate for 2012 FYE given just 3 years ago compared to the recent one?
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This deal can either make or mar this company. Only time will tell.

High Points

1. The Company has paid a $435 MM cash deposit to Conoco, financed by a $345 MM loan from the Company’s parent, Oando Plc, as well as a $90 MM loan funded through secured bridge loans guaranteed by Oando Plc. The $345 MM loan from the parent has a 120-day term, an annual interest rate of LIBOR plus 10.5% and is convertible into company shares at the lower of the 5-day VWAP from December 20 and the 5-day VWAP preceding the day that Oando Plc gives notice that it wishes to convert the loan into company shares.

Q: Was the loan from Ocean and Oil or Oando PLC ?

2. In addition to the $435 MM deposit paid upon signing, the Company expects the remainder of the purchase price to be funded through equity and debt, including private placements of equity-linked securities, a follow-on offering of company shares and $800 MM of senior secured loans that are
expected to be provided by a syndicate of international and Nigerian banks.
Management will target a 50/50 debt to equity split for the acquisition over time, dependent on market conditions.

Q: How prepared is Oando for this escalating debt profile if Sir KOD and his boys decide to resume hostilities in the creeks and/or the global oil prices suddenly plunge to record low prices?
Please when the loans are secured, make we know the Nigerian banks involved.

Now we know the banks that are involved.

i) First City Monument Bank PLC; 19%
ii) First Bank of Nigeria PLC; 12%
iii) Guaranty Trust Bank PLC; 17%
iv) Stanbic IBTC Bank PLC 4%



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Bros see the attached prospectus
Oando Plc Right Issue Prospectus 2012 - Proshare

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PROVISIONAL ALLOTMENT:
Two (2) new ordinary shares for every one (1) ordinary share of 50 Kobo each held as at the close of business on Friday, 19 October 2012 for those shareholders whose names appear on the Register of Members and transfer books of the Company which are maintained in Nigeria and shareholders whose names appear on the Register of Members and transfer books of the Company which are maintained in South Africa as at the close of business on the last business day prior to the Issue opening date in South Africa.
Hope those that want to take their rights noted that date. That was more than 2 months ago when some of the units must have been mopped on the NSE at less than 12 Naira. .

Fingers crossed....
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Now we know the banks that are involved.

i) First City Monument Bank PLC; 19%
ii) First Bank of Nigeria PLC; 12%
iii) Guaranty Trust Bank PLC; 17%
iv) Stanbic IBTC Bank PLC 4%








Hope those that want to take their rights noted that date. That was more than 2 months ago when some of the units must have been mopped on the NSE at less than 12 Naira. .

Fingers crossed....

Please,how does one go about trading/selling his rights issue?
I will appreciate being enlightened on this. Thanks.
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Please,how does one go about trading/selling his rights issue?
I will appreciate being enlightened on this. Thanks.
Bro, you want to trade at a loss?

You trade when there is an upside (positive price differential). I.e, when the rights issue price is at a discount to the Floor price, but this is not the case with the presenr rights issue. So considering trading does not arise (except if oga Hispy99 want to take over the company from the backdoor and is willing to pay a premium on any units he can get).
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Bro, you want to trade at a loss?

You trade when there is an upside (positive price differential). I.e, when the rights issue price is at a discount to the Floor price, but this is not the case with the presenr rights issue. So considering trading does not arise (except if oga Hispy99 want to take over the company from the backdoor and is willing to pay a premium on any units he can get).
u wan uncle Wale to take my face mop floor? abeg o, i no get sense reach uncle Wale and his team o
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Bro, you want to trade at a loss?

You trade when there is an upside (positive price differential). I.e, when the rights issue price is at a discount to the Floor price, but this is not the case with the presenr rights issue. So considering trading does not arise (except if oga Hispy99 want to take over the company from the backdoor and is willing to pay a premium on any units he can get).
No wonder.
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Oando removed from Q4 NSE 30 Index, Jberger Returns - Proshare


Dem just dey comot OANDO for everything small small
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Dem just dey comot OANDO for everything small small
I believe Oando will bounce back with this right issue,
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I believe Oando will bounce back with this right issue,
I am thinking of selling my holding to buy this right and save 3.4% (At sale price of N 12.4). Why do you think Oando will bounce back with the rights issue.
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I believe Oando will bounce back with this right issue,

I admire this your thinking. How long before iy bounces back?

Good thing is that you are walking in with your eyes wide open!
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"The ordinary shares being issued shall rank pari passu in all respects with the existing issued Ordinary Shares of the Company and shall qualify for any dividend (or any other distribution) declared for the financial year ending 31 December, 2012, in so far as the qualification date for the dividend (or any other distribution) declared is after the allotment of the ordinary shares now being issued."
Abracadabra...what if its declared for BEFORE? Oando and their penchant for confusion
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I admire this your thinking. How long before iy bounces back?

Good thing is that you are walking in with your eyes wide open!
You 'believe'? Based on what? The promises of these guys? Emotion? Did you participate in the last public offer? Go back and pick up that prospectus and see how believable it was then.

As for when, I do know there are companies whose good cashflow took 2 years for Mr. Market to notice. The cashflow for these guys now can only be described in one word - DISMAL.
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You 'believe'? Based on what? The promises of these guys? Emotion? Did you participate in the last public offer? Go back and pick up that prospectus and see how believable it was then.

As for when, I do know there are companies whose good cashflow took 2 years for Mr. Market to notice. The cashflow for these guys now can only be described in one word - DISMAL.
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