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I think it is business as usual. KOD must have requested the meeting (and it will not be with Wale?)

Btw, I agree with the point about complexity of the business (relative to peer mid sized coys on the NSE). A positive spin for this maybe that the company has a wider vision/aspiration.
Actually Wale requested the meeting and he is meeting with us...

I have never requested to meet any MD before and if I wanted to, I'd rather request to meet with MD Nestle, or MD Dangcem. Definitely not Oando.
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Actually Wale requested the meeting and he is meeting with us...
I have never requested to meet any MD before and if I wanted to, I'd rather request to meet with MD Nestle, or MD Dangcem. Definitely not Oando.
Sorry..seems am too young on this forum to actuall know who is who here!

Abeg na who be us? Na so U large reach?
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Actually Wale requested the meeting and he is meeting with us...

I have never requested to meet any MD before and if I wanted to, I'd rather request to meet with MD Nestle, or MD Dangcem. Definitely not Oando.
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Actually Wale requested the meeting and he is meeting with us...

I have never requested to meet any MD before and if I wanted to, I'd rather request to meet with MD Nestle, or MD Dangcem. Definitely not Oando.
Gbam!

These are indeed interesting (crunching) times for Oando... I wish them well ...

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Sorry..seems am too young on this forum to actuall know who is who here!

Abeg na who be us? Na so U large reach?
Does it now mean Oando is "lobbying" fund managers to participate in the right issues ???
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Does it now mean Oando is "lobbying" fund managers to participate in the right issues ???
We outsiders to these inside links can only guess. Indeed it looks like lobbying. I wonder what made FSDH stop rating OANDO a buy some weeks back after rating it a buy for several months. Maybe if Wale calls them for a meet story will change again with FSDH rating.
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Happy New Year my people. Hope everyone is good. Guess am not getting Back Late.

Anyways, on this Oando Rights issue (or right issues generally), pls
-if I take up my rights at 12 naira, does it mean am buying at cost price of 12 irrespective of market price.
-with my 1000 units of Oando, can I only buy 2000 units since they said 2 new shares for every one share held. What if I want to buy more or less.
-can i buy thru my broker or bank.

-when will the units bought reflect on my account. At the end of the rishts issue exercise or sometime latter.

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Happy New Year my people. Hope everyone is good. Guess am not getting Back Late.

Anyways, on this Oando Rights issue (or right issues generally), pls
-if I take up my rights at 12 naira, does it mean am buying at cost price of 12 irrespective of market price.
-with my 1000 units of Oando, can I only buy 2000 units since they said 2 new shares for every one share held. What if I want to buy more or less.
-can i buy thru my broker or bank.

-when will the units bought reflect on my account. At the end of the rishts issue exercise or sometime latter.

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If I take up my rights at 12 naira, does it mean am buying at cost price of 12 irrespective of market price. YES

-with my 1000 units of Oando, can I only buy 2000 units since they said 2 new shares for every one share held. What if I want to buy more or less. YES, You can buy more, the rights issue will include a box for to indicate if you want additional shares.

-can i buy thru my broker or bank. YES, list of agents if available on the rights form and it includes banks and stockbrokers.

-when will the units bought reflect on my account. At the end of the rishts issue exercise or sometime latter. Sometime later. Usually, there is a process that needs to be done e.g allotment approval by SEC after the offer has closed. Check the rights form, it should give you an idea.
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For those buying the rights are you sure you will qualify for YE 2012 declarations? Many funny things are going on. Read the fine prints well.

Wale and co are turning the oil industry to the cow boy banking era! For
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For those buying the rights are you sure you will qualify for YE 2012 declarations? Many funny things are going on. Read the fine prints well.

Wale and co are turning the oil industry to the cow boy banking era! For
It ranked parri passu. It qualifies for any declaration that will be made for YE 2012. The right offer will be listed in May 2013. The result for OANDO will be out in June 2013.
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It ranked parri passu. It qualifies for any declaration that will be made for YE 2012. The right offer will be listed in May 2013. The result for OANDO will be out in June 2013.
You may want to read the rights prospectus. There is a clause in it that may not make them qualify...something about allotment date...)
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You may want to read the rights prospectus. There is a clause in it that may not make them qualify...something about allotment date...)

Read page 7 of the right circular.
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Read page 7 of the right circular.
Read item 16 on the summary of the issue.
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It ranked parri passu. It qualifies for any declaration that will be made for YE 2012. The right offer will be listed in May 2013. The result for OANDO will be out in June 2013.
You need 2 take ur time and read d prospectus very well.The forecast is to pay over 3b 4 2012 yead end translating to about N1.50k as dividend. If u put 2 plus 2 together u wil discover dat oando is not likely 2 pay dividend on d right issue share. I have a feeling dat dey wil deliberately delay d allotment process in order to justify deir action.
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Read item 16 on the summary of the issue.
I decided to past the item 16 here:

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The ordinary shares being issued shall rank pari passu in all respects with the existing issued Ordinary Shares of the Company and shall qualify for any dividend (or any other distribution) declared for the financial year ending 31 December, 2012, in so far as the qualification date for the dividend (or any other distribution) declared is after the allotment of the ordinary shares now being issued.
A lot of shua shua can be put into those lines...it is not straight forward. While I do believe that the Ocean and Oil guys want to have a larger chunk of the company through this rights issue, i have a propagandist view that they will not pay dividend on the new shares if the rights issue does not favour their master plan....#justsaying

Moreover, they did not use the money for business in 2012. Why should they pay dividend on it?
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I decided to past the item 16 here:



A lot of shua shua can be put into those lines...it is not straight forward. While I do believe that the Ocean and Oil guys want to have a larger chunk of the company through this rights issue, i have a propagandist view that they will not pay dividend on the new shares if the rights issue does not favour their master plan....#justsaying

Moreover, they did not use the money for business in 2012. Why should they pay dividend on it?
Any body expecting a corporate action on these Rights shares is clearly living in "Hopeville"

I suspect that those taking their rights will however be able to take their profits when the shares are listed cos by then the value of OANDO will be at about N25. (cool 100% in 6 months)
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Any body expecting a corporate action on these Rights shares is clearly living in "Hopeville"

I suspect that those taking their rights will however be able to take their profits when the shares are listed cos by then the value of OANDO will be at about N25. (cool 100% in 6 months):cool:

I don't share your optimism. It will take more than 6 months before investors can get their views about the company and its management.
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You need 2 take ur time and read d prospectus very well.The forecast is to pay over 3b 4 2012 yead end translating to about N1.50k as dividend. If u put 2 plus 2 together u wil discover dat oando is not likely 2 pay dividend on d right issue share. I have a feeling dat dey wil deliberately delay d allotment process in order to justify deir action.
Dividend of N11.50 we are waiting.
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Any body expecting a corporate action on these Rights shares is clearly living in "Hopeville"

I suspect that those taking their rights will however be able to take their profits when the shares are listed cos by then the value of OANDO will be at about N25. (cool 100% in 6 months)
Yes Oando may rise to N25 after some time but will it be sustain?
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A lot of shua shua can be put into those lines...it is not straight forward. While I do believe that the Ocean and Oil guys want to have a larger chunk of the company through this rights issue, i have a propagandist view that they will not pay dividend on the new shares if the rights issue does not favour their master plan....#justsaying

Moreover, they did not use the money for business in 2012. Why should they pay dividend on it?
I read the thing and saw the fine prints and doing the calculation. Imagine the number of investors that will factor the dividend into their calculation. Better to buy on the floor than buy the rights!
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