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Old 10th January 2013, 11:17 AM
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Any body expecting a corporate action on these Rights shares is clearly living in "Hopeville"

I suspect that those taking their rights will however be able to take their profits when the shares are listed cos by then the value of OANDO will be at about N25. (cool 100% in 6 months)
The value of OandO will be N25 based on what?

They did rights issue some 2years ago. What happened to the share price after that time?

Well, people will learn that upstream oil industry is a different ball game!
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I read the thing and saw the fine prints and doing the calculation. Imagine the number of investors that will factor the dividend into their calculation. Better to buy on the floor than buy the rights!
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The value of OandO will be N25 based on what?

They did rights issue some 2years ago. What happened to the share price after that time?
Well, people will learn that upstream oil industry is a different ball game!
When it makes more sence to buy from the floor that to take rights ..what will then happen to the share price? Ur guess is just as good as mine!

OANDO share price actually did more than 50% after the last rights issue i think..(or may someone educate me better?)
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When it makes more sence to buy from the floor that to take rights ..what will then happen to the share price? Ur guess is just as good as mine!

OANDO share price actually did more than 50% after the last rights issue i think..(or may someone educate me better?)
I see. Hopewell, hopeville which one you dey stay?

How much was the last rights again?
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Oga Wanajo,

I remember Oando share price was around N80-82 Naira in June 2010.
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oga Wanajo,

I remember Oando Share price rose to N80-N82 in June 2010 after the right issue at N70 in the early months of 2010
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oga Wanajo,

I remember Oando Share price rose to N80-N82 in June 2010 after the right issue at N70 in the early months of 2010
So how much is that rights worth now discounting for the bonus and dividends. Don't even talk about the capita raising at the peak of the boom!
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Oga Wanajo

Clear your private message box you have numerous messages lined up for you.
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Oga Wanajo

Clear your private message box you have numerous messages lined up for you.
Make una no vex. Need then to increase my mail box size.

Cleared now.
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Analyst proshare, you are welcome to stockmarket nigeria.com
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Analyst proshare, you are welcome to stockmarket nigeria.com
@ analyst proshare what are your views on the right issue of oando.
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It ranked parri passu. It qualifies for any declaration that will be made for YE 2012. The right offer will be listed in May 2013. The result for OANDO will be out in June 2013.
It will do you like acadabra...make we dey watch
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Any body expecting a corporate action on these Rights shares is clearly living in "Hopeville"

I suspect that those taking their rights will however be able to take their profits when the shares are listed cos by then the value of OANDO will be at about N25. (cool 100% in 6 months)
you sure say dis is not living in hopeville?
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you sure say dis is not living in hopeville?
bros how we go do naa? we have to keep the hope alive!
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When it makes more sence to buy from the floor that to take rights ..what will then happen to the share price? Ur guess is just as good as mine!

OANDO share price actually did more than 50% after the last rights issue i think..(or may someone educate me better?)
Past performance is not a guarantee of future results! I love the ambition of the management of this company but compared to the last rights issue, the following could be said about the current situation:

1. The market is now more knowledgable (especially about their usual antics and gimmicks)

2. The estimates or forecasts made in the last rights issue have not played out.

3. They are venturing into the upstream sector which of course is lucrative but also very risky.

4. The spinoff and listing of Oando Marketing is still a pipe dream.

5. The corporate structure keeps getting more and more complicated for valuation purposes.


......

We can fill in the blank spaces.

Do you think it was a joke when the CEO started courting the movers and shakers of the market like the PFAs and other Institutional investors to "discuss" about the rights issue?
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My Oga I thank you for ur answers

Pls how do I really get the rights form or prospectus if I don't receive in my Post.



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If I take up my rights at 12 naira, does it mean am buying at cost price of 12 irrespective of market price. YES

-with my 1000 units of Oando, can I only buy 2000 units since they said 2 new shares for every one share held. What if I want to buy more or less. YES, You can buy more, the rights issue will include a box for to indicate if you want additional shares.

-can i buy thru my broker or bank. YES, list of agents if available on the rights form and it includes banks and stockbrokers.

-when will the units bought reflect on my account. At the end of the rishts issue exercise or sometime latter. Sometime later. Usually, there is a process that needs to be done e.g allotment approval by SEC after the offer has closed. Check the rights form, it should give you an idea.
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Past performance is not a guarantee of future results! I love the ambition of the management of this company but compared to the last rights issue, the following could be said about the current situation:

1. The market is now more knowledgable (especially about their usual antics and gimmicks)

2. The estimates or forecasts made in the last rights issue have not played out.

3. They are venturing into the upstream sector which of course is lucrative but also very risky.

4. The spinoff and listing of Oando Marketing is still a pipe dream.

5. The corporate structure keeps getting more and more complicated for valuation purposes.


......

We can fill in the blank spaces.

Do you think it was a joke when the CEO started courting the movers and shakers of the market like the PFAs and other Institutional investors to "discuss" about the rights issue?
I think this Guys may find it difficult selling their right offer reason being that sentiment is low toward Oando unlike the previous time. Most likely because of all the stories surrounding Oando. This will serve as lesson to other Companies that one day they will come for our money and we will judge them by their previous performance. Having said that I see the price of Oando goinging down after the right offer.
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My Oga I thank you for ur answers

Pls how do I really get the rights form or prospectus if I don't receive in my Post.
no let me send you e-body slam o... i for just send u go OANDO website, but since I dey in a good mood.....

http://www.oandoplc.com/wp-content/u...rs-version.pdf
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Abeg Ogas. I get some small questions. As regards the conoco acquisition, the effective date is jan. 1 2012. what does that mean? Does it mean that money conoco made in 2012 will go to OER and by extension Oando plc ? when do we expect to see the money in oando plc's financials?
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Hello All...Am new to this forum but i do read all the necessary opinions and ideas posted by this group. Your contributions go along way in explaining some important points concerning investing in stocks. But quick question, apart from the management problem Oando is having, i think they have the potential of growing in terms of their stocks price appreciation after their rights issue? Just observation...
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Hello All...Am new to this forum but i do read all the necessary opinions and ideas posted by this group. Your contributions go along way in explaining some important points concerning investing in stocks. But quick question, apart from the management problem Oando is having, i think they have the potential of growing in terms of their stocks price appreciation after their rights issue? Just observation...
I must confess that am Mezmerized by ur first post, it really shows ur AMBITIOUS...

When u say Apart from oando management problem, which other? I actually could not think of any.... But Eeeeehhh Management problem is the biggest problem a company can have..

It is only management problem that can make a company price fall from 70 to 12..

Its only management issue that can make OlenOle collect 35bill frm us 3yrs ago without using it judiciously..

Its only management stupidity that ll make a company wants my money to pay its own debt.

Its only management problem that will make a company to lack total coperate governance.

Its only management incompetency that will make a company list unecessary on stock exchanges...

Its only management misdeamanuer that will make we as investor unable to comprehend what OANDO is in the real sense..

Its only management misdeeds that will make the RIGHT ISSUE FAIL...

Money can be made on oando...just answer the question.. What will oando be in d next 1year?? U can use that to guide ur BUY..SELL or HOLD...
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