State of the Nation

[Waves]

Originally Posted by dr.abrahamb

I am not a supporter of PDP. Infact, I detest that party. If I say I do not support Buhari's choice of words, it is bourn out of my own experience in the north, and not anything to do with the PDP.

Buhari should do what Oshiomole did in the last elections. Move around and re-assure Nigerians who will ever be suspicious henceforth. Move around and tell us what the ruling party is doing/planning to rig elections and leave the rest to us. On election day, we will fight for our votes and not a party. Ka ji ko?

I know Buhari's house in Kaduna, I know his simple lifestyle, I understand how he feels for this country. BUT I will never support such use of words FROM HIM. This is the same way I almost crucified GEJ when he called the ACN governors rogues, before the last elections.

Did GEJ actually say that? Since he spoke in english on live TV, let's use his exact words '....The southwest is too important to be left in the hands of rascals.....' Compare that with what you stated above.'

Now you can see another reason why you should be more careful when reading Nigerian Newspapers. For the right amount, you can put any news item in many Nigerian newspapers. So far, the most difficult newspapers to influence are Guardian and Daily Trust.

[dr.abrahamb]

Originally Posted by Waves

Did GEJ actually say that? Since he spoke in english on live TV, let's use his exact words '....The southwest is too important to be left in the hands of rascals.....' Compare that with what you stated above.'

Now you can see another reason why you should be more careful when reading Nigerian Newspapers. For the right amount, you can put any news item in many Nigerian newspapers. So far, the most difficult newspapers to influence are Guardian and Daily Trust.

Bolded is NOTED.

And thanks for the correction; it was actually 'rascals' and not rogues.

[eniyanman]

Compare and contrast.
1. One rolled out, across the nation, a War on Indiscipline , the other is busy rolling out the Wheels of Incompetence (WOI)
2. One focused on 'extraditing' alleged corrupt person to face justice at home, the other turns a blind eye to corruption and effectively out-sources the trial and conviction of corrupt persons to foreign courts.
3. One was known for austerity the other known for lootocracy.
4. One was known for his incorrigibility, the other for his equivocation.
5. One 'stole' democracy. The other simply lets others 'steal'.
6. One sees in monochrome, the other is colour-blind

"Castrato meets the Dictator" - coming to a cinema near you!

[bamidele97]

Quoting Buhari “If what happened in 2011 (alleged
rigging) should again happen in 2015,
by the grace of God, the dog and the
baboon would all be soaked in blood.’’
Please Sirs what is wrong with the above statement?
This man is just saying the obvious. In any society, rigging of election results in violence. Refer to Ivory Coast and Kenya.
Our leaders know quite well that Nigerians are docile and this is another proof; we are being made to believe citizen Buhari is our number one problem today and not president Jonathan we voted in that can't ensure security of life and property with all the resources at his disposal and power confered on him.
Let's leave Buhari and talk about subsidy probe, pension probe e.t.c.

[shesqo]

To what can one attribute the gross inefficiency of the Jonathan's presidency - naivity or wickedness?

[dr.abrahamb]

Originally Posted by shesqo

To what can one attribute the gross inefficiency of the Jonathan's presidency - naivity or wickedness?

Nigerians just realised good food must not be served in dirty dishes. GEJ may have good intentions but he was PDP's bait to get votes. PDP is rotten and corrupting; just see what has become of our dear Reuben Abati.

[dr.abrahamb]

Originally Posted by bamidele97

Quoting Buhari “If what happened in 2011 (alleged
rigging) should again happen in 2015,
by the grace of God, the dog and the
baboon would all be soaked in blood.’’
Please Sirs what is wrong with the above statement?
This man is just saying the obvious. In any society, rigging of election results in violence. Refer to Ivory Coast and Kenya.
Our leaders know quite well that Nigerians are docile and this is another proof; we are being made to believe citizen Buhari is our number one problem today and not president Jonathan we voted in that can't ensure security of life and property with all the resources at his disposal and power confered on him.
Let's leave Buhari and talk about subsidy probe, pension probe e.t.c.

...and the violence should be targeted at religious centres? Targeted at religious leaders for a paltry reward?

Let me tell you what is wrong with that statement: IF THIS COUNTRY BURNS, WE WILL NOT BE IN A HURRY TO QUENCH IT, SINCE WE HAVE JUSTIFIED THE FIRE AB INITIO.

Another thing wrong with that statement is: IF I LOSE, IT MEANS THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED, AND SO THE COUNTRY MUST BURN ANYWAY

Let Buhari do his homework and convince Nigerians to consider him again. You, who ''voted GEJ and not PDP'', please tell him to perform and disappoint those of us who saw through and through the ''good food in a dirty dish''.

[Waves]

Originally Posted by Waves

My brother, there are many patriotic Nigerians who sincerely voted for President Jonathan because they were convinced he was and remains the best choice for Nigeria. They did not vote for him because he is a Christian, from the South South, Ijaw or because they hate or are afraid of Buhari. I have more in common with people like that than those who maim, kill, loot or destroy property because of a perceive wrong. In the end, voting in a democracy is sometimes a leap of faith. Only time will tell whether we made the right choice.

In due course, if Moderators permit, we will discuss the Jonathan Presidency. However, GEJ has the following going for him. First, Jonathan is an inside-outsider. This means though he is coming from the ruling club, he does not fully share their ideologies. According to Harvard Business Review, this quality is one of the most important qualities in a Leader. SLS is an example and Soludo's failure is partly attributable to the lack of that. Second, GEJ has promised not to seek a second term. This means he does not have to worry about politics a lot and can take the necessary but painful decisions. For instance, I expect him to remove the PMS and Kerosine subsidies immediately after swearing in (there is even no budgetary provision for that in 2011). If you notice, most Obasanjo's successes were recorded in his second term before the chase for third term began. Finally, If Okah remains in Jail and those Arabs continue their struggle, GEJ presidency will be awash with cash.

On the downside, GEJ will have to contend with the following. First, his mandate does not have the necessary National outlook. Infact, no Nigerian President has ever had such a skewed mandate. Getting 25% is different from winning a state. The problem with that is GEJ may spend a lot of time and money trying to woo the so called North. Some funny guys will end up making a fortune based on this as some have already done during the elections. Second, GEJ is a nice guy. Trust me in leading a nation like Nigeria, that is not an advantage. There are many crooks in govt and nice people don't deal with people. If you remember when GEJ assumed the Presidency, he took up the Halliburton and Siemens issues. One year after, nothing tangible is happening. In fact, the Acting National Chairman of the PDP (who raises GEJ hands during all campaigns), was amongst those initially arraigned for the Siemens case. The current minister of state for health was recently charged to court by the ICPC for fraud during his tenure as Resident Electoral Commisioner in Adamawa state (hope you don't miss the connection) but the AGF had the case suspended till after the elections. Finally, the PDP is one elaborate web of intrigues and graft. Many of the members are aware of the things GEJ did to secure the party's nomination and elections. Business will continue as normal. The National Assembly (with a diminished PDP majority) will be tricky to handle.

As Nigerians, GEJ needs our prayers. His success or failure will eventually rub on all of us. He also needs our support during some of the battles he will have and our constructive criticisms when he veers off.

God bless Nigeria.

Originally Posted by shesqo

To what can one attribute the gross inefficiency of the Jonathan's presidency - naivity or wickedness?

Hope my post above, which i made immediately after the elections last year, will help answer your question. The former party Chairman is now the Minister of Defense while the case involving the former minister of Health was not refiled. The Halliburton case has been dismissed by the court for lack of diligent prosecution. Otedola (Zenon) and Dangote (MRS) are on his Economic Management team.

As i predicted, GEJ took the decision to remove subsidies. However, he went about it in such a wrong way that the whole issue back fired. Finally, GEJ has spent valuable time chasing shadows on this BH issue.

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[pegheneji]

Originally Posted by bamidele97

Quoting Buhari “If what happened in 2011 (alleged
rigging) should again happen in 2015,
by the grace of God, the dog and the
baboon would all be soaked in blood.’’
Please Sirs what is wrong with the above statement?
This man is just saying the obvious. In any society, rigging of election results in violence. Refer to Ivory Coast and Kenya.
Our leaders know quite well that Nigerians are docile and this is another proof; we are being made to believe citizen Buhari is our number one problem today and not president Jonathan we voted in that can't ensure security of life and property with all the resources at his disposal and power confered on him.
Let's leave Buhari and talk about subsidy probe, pension probe e.t.c.

i am very concern about what Buhari said because the north behave as if they hate the south. in 1983, there were bloodbath in old oyo and ondo states because the victory of omololu oluloya and akin omoboriowo both of NPN which Shagari a northerner symbolises. the attack were on persive NPN members who are all yorubas and not innocent norherners. but after the 20011 election, all the youth corpers that were killed howmany were kanuris or hausa fulani? that is how you know a caurse been faught. the Bishiop of Maiduguri Dieoses (Catholic Church) was at Maitama some weeks ago to raise money to build burnt churches, you can believe the daily target on the churches over 90% of the churches has bben raised down. look at the masacra at BUK. the same buhari said moslems should not vote for christain. since the BH episode, how many mosque has been destroyed. i do not know if you are a christain, but is a faith that make someone peaceful, a faith that teaches forgiveness and it is only satanism that will make any group attack christains. personally i do not mind voting for elrufai, ribadu but not buhari who see every other tribe apart from Hausa/fulani as second class, who have disdain for christain and that was why el rufai described him as unelectable.

[bamidele97]

Originally Posted by pegheneji

i am very concern about what Buhari said because the north behave as if they hate the south. in 1983, there were bloodbath in old oyo and ondo states because the victory of omololu oluloya and akin omoboriowo both of NPN which Shagari a northerner symbolises. the attack were on persive NPN members who are all yorubas and not innocent norherners. but after the 20011 election, all the youth corpers that were killed howmany were kanuris or hausa fulani? that is how you know a caurse been faught. the Bishiop of Maiduguri Dieoses (Catholic Church) was at Maitama some weeks ago to raise money to build burnt churches, you can believe the daily target on the churches over 90% of the churches has bben raised down. look at the masacra at BUK. the same buhari said moslems should not vote for christain. since the BH episode, how many mosque has been destroyed. i do not know if you are a christain, but is a faith that make someone peaceful, a faith that teaches forgiveness and it is only satanism that will make any group attack christains. personally i do not mind voting for elrufai, ribadu but not buhari who see every other tribe apart from Hausa/fulani as second class, who have disdain for christain and that was why el rufai described him as unelectable.

Thank you very much Madam Peggy. I gave you a thumb up too.
To start with, I'm a Christain and I see our plight as much as an average christain does (to be conservative) in the hand of our muslim brothers in the northern part of Nigeria. I've come under effective enemy fire during crises Kaduna and I also schooled in Jos. My heart did 120rpm on both ocassions
Part of my grouse with this administration on Boko Haram are:
1) Why have they not arrested at least one high profile boko haram sponsor since they have the Suleja bombing mastermind, Kabiru Sokoto and other some other foot soldiers in custody who must have given them or have extracted useful info from? Can someone spell "Water Boarding"?
2) Why is Jonathan engaging Buhari in a verbal war on issue bordering on security? Arrest him if his utterances are inimical to peace in Nigeria. You are the President.
3) What has become of the serving PDP senator fingered as boko haram sponsor? E.t.c.
This administration is not interested in annihilating boko haram soon as it's the only thing keeping them busy. It takes high profile arrests to shatter terror cells. There are million potential suicide bombers roaming the north.
If Jona continues this way with boko haram and fiscal indiscipline, come 2017 we'll all be on queue in refugee camps with plates waiting for UN helicopter to drop food.
Lest I forget, I voted for Jona and convinced friends to do same.

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[solo66]

Originally Posted by dr.abrahamb

Nigerians just realised good food must not be served in dirty dishes. GEJ may have good intentions but he was PDP's bait to get votes. PDP is rotten and corrupting; just see what has become of our dear Reuben Abati.

Please let's be more broad-minded in our arguments.

Was PDP the problem of Nigeria that led to the demise of the 2nd Republic of the 1960s led by NCNC?

Was PDP the problem that led to the coups and counter coups of the mid 1960s?

Was PDP there when Gowon was toppled in 1975?

Was PDP around when Murtala Muhammed was assasinated in 1976?

Was PDP the problem that led to the demise of the 2nd Republic under Shehu Shagari of NPN?

Was PDP the cause of dethronement of Buhari/Idiagbon regime? Please note the inclusion of Idiagbon! It was Idiagbon that was practically running the disciplined regime of 1984-85 with Buhari as a mere camouflage and that was what led to the palace coup that edged out Idiagbon while he was away on hajj. Idiagbon was the target of the coup and not Buhari!

Was PDP the cause of failure of June 12 1993 elections?

Remember UNCP under Abacha?

The problem with Nigeria is deep-rooted corruption from inception and until we change out approach to wealth-at-all-cost, we will remain in the same rut.

The Buhari that is making a noise everywhere has been part of the problem. Remember he was Petroleum Minister in the 1970s under OBJ? There was even the speculation that he had a hand in the stolen Nigerian money that was seized by Idi Amin of Uganda in the late 1970s.

If Buhari were morally upright, why would he have stooped so low to accept the PTF appointment from the boys (Abacha) that overthrew his government? Idiagbon went his way and abandoned romancing with the bad guys in public light.

Talk of corruption, where did Buhari get the money he spends politicking? Talk of anarchy in 2015, Buhari will pay the ultimate price when that stage is set since he has not regretted the deaths and destruction he engineered in 2011 presidential elections.

In my humble opinion, Buhari does not have what it takes to take Nigeria to the higher hights it deserves.

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