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that's because we are in nigeria
yes naa..if we are not in nigeria do you think we will have sometin like boko haram? or do you think Dangote would have been the richest man?
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Even if they have accused OBJ of 'sin against humanity', did they take him to ICC or ICJ?. They will only accuse him in their bedrooms. Let them come out and take him to court and OBJ will also tell to produce the people that they killed. He who to equity must come with clean hands.

If GEJ moves heavy troops into borno and level the whole place and leave just about two houses like what OBJ did in Odi and Zaki Biam, Boko Haram will be history.
I don't quite agree with the solution you proposed to Boko Haram menace as 80% (conservately) of those that would be affected would be innocent christians and muslims living in Bornu state whose businesses and other secular activities are already taking hit from BH unrest.
What the president should have done and should do now are:
- Declare state of emergency in one or two of the affected states. Let the govs and other political office holders go broke. This will keep other governors on their toes and compel them to properly man their territories. You can be sure they will also not hesitate to turn in any political or religion leader planning or capable of formenting trouble in their states.
-Arrest and prosecute senators Ndume, Zanni and other political leaders fingered to cut off the funding to BH, to serve as deterrence to others and to show the whole world that the present administration frowns at BH.
JTF chasing rag-tag BH foot soldiers (who in most cases have nothing to live for and are ready to die) amounts to curing the symptoms while nothing is being done about the disease.
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I don't quite agree with the solution you proposed to Boko Haram menace as 80% (conservately) of those that would be affected would be innocent christians and muslims living in Bornu state whose businesses and other secular activities are already taking hit from BH unrest.
What the president should have done and should do now are:
- Declare state of emergency in one or two of the affected states. Let the govs and other political office holders go broke. This will keep other governors on their toes and compel them to properly man their territories. You can be sure they will not also hesitate to turn in any political or religion leader planning or capable of formenting trouble in their state.
-Arrest and prosecute senators Ndume, Zanni and other political leaders fingered to cut off the funding to BH, to serve as deterrence to others and to show the whole world that the present administration frowns at BH.
JTF chasing rag-tag BH foot soldiers (who in most cases have nothing to live for and are ready to die) amounts to curing the symptoms while nothing is being done about the disease.
with the rusty relationship between GEJ and national assembly, i doubt a state of emergency will scale through though i think it'll be a good idea
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I don't quite agree with the solution you proposed to Boko Haram menace as 80% (conservately) of those that would be affected would be innocent christians and muslims living in Bornu state whose businesses and other secular activities are already taking hit from BH unrest.
What the president should have done and should do now are:
- Declare state of emergency in one or two of the affected states. Let the govs and other political office holders go broke. This will keep other governors on their toes and compel them to properly man their territories. You can be sure they will not also hesitate to turn in any political or religion leader planning or capable of formenting trouble in their state.
-Arrest and prosecute senators Ndume, Zanni and other political leaders fingered to cut off the funding to BH, to serve as deterrence to others and to show the whole world that the present administration frowns at BH.
JTF chasing rag-tag BH foot soldiers (who in most cases have nothing to live for and are ready to die) amounts to curing the symptoms while nothing is being done about the disease.
Declaring a state of emergency is one solution. A quick solution is to first of all level some one or two towns after giving an ultimatum to those living there to leave or facing the impending bullets. Once you level one or two towns, the rest will be become wiser and distance themselves from BH. If you want to make it a better leveling, try to make sure that those you have mentioned above are intentionally caught in the cross fire and they are eliminated. When those still thinking of funding them see what has happened to them, they will either go on self exile or you use accidental discharge or accidental accident to wipe them out.
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Declaring a state of emergency is one solution. A quick solution is to first of all level some one or two towns after giving an ultimatum to those living there to leave or facing the impending bullets. Once you level one or two towns, the rest will be become wiser and distance themselves from BH. If you want to make it a better leveling, try to make sure that those you have mentioned above are intentionally caught in the cross fire and they are eliminated. When those still thinking of funding them see what has happened to them, they will either go on self exile or you use accidental discharge or accidental accident to wipe them out.
did you serve in the military in the 80s
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did you serve in the military in the 80s
No. Btw, what happened in the military in the 80s?.

Sometimes some drastic actions needs to be taken to teach a lesson or to get a drastic result. When Israel was fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, there was a call for ceasefire. Israel made sure that before the ceasefire came into force, they destroy a bridge that Lebanon has been building for 10 years and which they were about to commission before the outbreak of hostilities. When Israel was asked why they did it, they said that Lebanon will be so busy for the next 10 years rebuilding the bridge that they will not even have time to think of attacking Israel.
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No. Btw, what happened in the military in the 80s?.

Sometimes some drastic actions needs to be taken to teach a lesson or to get a drastic result. When Israel was fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, there was a call for ceasefire. Israel made sure that before the ceasefire came into force, they destroy a bridge that Lebanon has been building for 10 years and which they were about to commission before the outbreak of hostilities. When Israel was asked why they did it, they said that Lebanon will be so busy for the next 10 years rebuilding the bridge that they will not even have time to think of attacking Israel.
you won't hear that from me
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No. Btw, what happened in the military in the 80s?.

Sometimes some drastic actions needs to be taken to teach a lesson or to get a drastic result. When Israel was fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, there was a call for ceasefire. Israel made sure that before the ceasefire came into force, they destroy a bridge that Lebanon has been building for 10 years and which they were about to commission before the outbreak of hostilities. When Israel was asked why they did it, they said that Lebanon will be so busy for the next 10 years rebuilding the bridge that they will not even have time to think of attacking Israel.
that's just mean...
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that's just mean...
Yes. It is mean but the aim was achieved. There has not been any attack from that side on Israel since then. Lebanon had to chase out Hezbollah themselves. They now know the consequences of allowing them use their country to attack Israel.
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That is what and how it should be when you are a President of a complex country like Nigeria. I once told a friend that if i was the President of Nigeria, by now Nigeria will only have 35 states because Borno state would have been wiped out of the map along with her boko haram people.
opari..so how many people are boko haram that you would wipe out an entire state? the pikins nko? you will wipe out 10 year olds too?
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opari..so how many people are boko haram that you would wipe out an entire state? the pikins nko? you will wipe out 10 year olds too?
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This thing is not as simple as you make it look. The boko haram footsoldiers are part of the people just the same way their think-tanks are part of the ruling elite. They cannot be easily separated. This is not like the ND style where the militants camped themselves in the creeks and separated themselves from the people. The BH suicide bombers are the mai suyas, the barrow pushers, etc, and have families unlike the ND militants that were jobless and could afford to stay apart.

Once you tell the people to move, that you want to bomb the place, the footsoldiers will move along with their families to, say, Kano and continue their suicide missions there. You will end up bombing empty houses and streets.
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BOKO HARAM: OBJ blames Jonathan

What an insult to our collective memory. More than any other leader, OBJ created the enabling environment that allowed Boko Haram to thrive. First, he allowed the shariasation of some parts of the North and looked the other way when extremist groups were wrecking the land and killing people in the name of Islam. He never moved against them. He never denounced them. He played to the gallery and even said that the Shariah issue would fizzle away! The seed that was sown then is what is destroying the country.
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This thing is not as simple as you make it look. The boko haram footsoldiers are part of the people just the same way their think-tanks are part of the ruling elite. They cannot be easily separated. This is not like the ND style where the militants camped themselves in the creeks and separated themselves from the people. The BH suicide bombers are the mai suyas, the barrow pushers, etc, and have families unlike the ND militants that were jobless and could afford to stay apart.

Once you tell the people to move, that you want to bomb the place, the footsoldiers will move along with their families to, say, Kano and continue their suicide missions there. You will end up bombing empty houses and streets.
i still think Miget solution is the best way to treat animals who should have been in the zoo. IMO means Idiots Must Obey and that is what OBJ stands for you dare bomb Police headquater, UN and you are still living in that country? in the name of rule of law or what? Jona is seriously annoying me by his 'woman' approach. citizens are even afraid to give info because they do not punish anybody, the former governor of Yobe state open his mouth to say expect (now senator) more boko harram. everybody h arrases GEJ because they know that he is 'the boy is nice" they now proud themselves saying 'we are dialoguing with BH" even Councillor they harass the president. if BH that killed millions without being able to state a reason they are fighting for is given red carpet, what will he do when Nwazurike boys or OPC starts. yet he can pressure NNaji to resign, how many ministers have been forced to resign? and the is a symptom of such people, they sacrifice the good once and placate the rugged once
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i still think Miget solution is the best way to treat animals who should have been in the zoo. IMO means Idiots Must Obey and that is what OBJ stands for you dare bomb Police headquater, UN and you are still living in that country? in the name of rule of law or what? Jona is seriously annoying me by his 'woman' approach. citizens are even afraid to give info because they do not punish anybody, the former governor of Yobe state open his mouth to say expect (now senator) more boko harram. everybody h arrases GEJ because they know that he is 'the boy is nice" they now proud themselves saying 'we are dialoguing with BH" even Councillor they harass the president. if BH that killed millions without being able to state a reason they are fighting for is given red carpet, what will he do when Nwazurike boys or OPC starts. yet he can pressure NNaji to resign, how many ministers have been forced to resign? and the is a symptom of such people, they sacrifice the good once and placate the rugged once
Wipe ... wipe ... wipe them away! If it were that easy, we wouldn't have been here. Will they be there to be wiped away? The real BH will flee before you arrive, leaving you to wipe away the innocents, the children, the old and the inform. In the end, the negative reactions will help create sympathy and mobilize many more adherents to the BH cause.

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Wipe ... wipe ... wipe them away! If it were that easy, we wouldn't have been here. Will they be there to be wiped away? The real BH will flee before you arrive, leaving you to wipe away the innocents, the children, the old and the inform. In the end, the negative reactions will help create sympathy and mobilize many more adherents to the BH cause.
the option probably is for Jona to go down on his kneel and beg them, promise that that the fed will give their children to 4th generation scholarship.
no one said the innocent should be wiped out.
when i was doing some runs at a village called jesse in delta state some years back, thieves goto sapele/waari rob and run to jesse because "them say" police men are affraid of going into jesse because the last policeman that went there was hidden forever. that place grew to become their headquater and the villagers cannot even report because when they report nothing will be done and the robbers come after you.
that is what is happening in bornu, the goverment has not shown sincerity shown that he is in charge at least let the former governor of Yobe state be questioned, Ndume is still sitting in the senate, is there any high profile Nigerian that has been dealt with on this issue? cant he rearly speeden the trial of these people? people will frelate with you the way they see you so they have taken it that they can will go scot free that is why they are harrassing everyone
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