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[Born 2be rich]

Originally Posted by horlads

Is dis a medical rule? Doctors, kindly advise...

Actually i worked in a hospital many years ago not as a doctor but as a clerk in the Antenatal unit when i was hustling...Had small idea though

[goldsun]

Originally Posted by horlads

Is dis a medical rule? Doctors, kindly advise...

i don't thinks its a rule, she need to be adequately counsel on all the complications that could arise during pregnancy and delivery as well as how to prevent them before she choose to get pregnant. Adequate care will also have to be given during pregnancy and delivery. I think if a sickle cell patient is old enough to get pregnant she'll know how to take care of herself.

[Waves]

Originally Posted by Oracle

Oga Babe, try and go to immigration office in Abuja and you will see what SLS is talking about. In one office, I saw like 20 officers crammed together in just 1 room. They were sitting shoulder to shoulder.No space! If you are standing on the little space kept as aisle and someone comes in, you will either tell the person to wait for you to get out first so that he/she can come in or you will get into a tight corner inside an officer's sitting area so that the person would pass. Common, this is unsafe.

And do you know that they are all doing the same thing? You will not believe it.

it gets so worse such that when you bring ''work'', like 4 of those jobless officers will tell you that they are doing the ''work''. Imagine settling such number!

An assignment I want you to do is: Go to any immigration office close to you,enter any of their offices and tell me what you see.

Surely it must have occurred to you looking at those customs officer they would prefer having a better paying and more engaging job than sitting and doing nothing on a job that pays peanuts as salary.

For an Economist, SLS comments are very silly. When Keynes said that during hard times, govt can hire people to 'dig holes and bury them' he wrote a long convincing thesis on the issue. Not sure SLS is much of an Economist

[Oracle]

Originally Posted by Waves

Surely it must have occurred to you looking at those customs officer they would prefer having a better paying and more engaging job than sitting and doing nothing on a job that pays peanuts as salary.

For an Economist, SLS comments are very silly. When Keynes said that during hard times, govt can hire people to 'dig holes and bury them' he wrote a long convincing thesis on the issue. Not sure SLS is much of an Economist

Bros, they get more from all these ''runz'' they do. They don't depend on their salaries.

Don't you think he should call for the sack of civil service workers?

[pal]

Originally Posted by Waves

Surely it must have occurred to you looking at those customs officer they would prefer having a better paying and more engaging job than sitting and doing nothing on a job that pays peanuts as salary.

For an Economist, SLS comments are very silly. When Keynes said that during hard times, govt can hire people to 'dig holes and bury them' he wrote a long convincing thesis on the issue. Not sure SLS is much of an Economist

I disagree here. You have forgotten animal factor in economics. And here in Nigeria, animal factor always prevails (always). This factor turns the best analysis on its head.

[Picolena66]

Nigeria: 500 More Widows, Divorcees for Kano Mass Wedding *
The Kano State Hisbah Board says it has concluded plans to marry off
another set of 500 widows and divorcees in the third batch of its mass
marriage program aimed at reducing the number of unmarried women in
the state.
allAfrica.com: Nigeria: 500 More Widows, Divorcees for Kano Mass Wedding

Hmmm.........are Kano babes Pretty....

[emmanuel ewumi]

Originally Posted by Picolena66

Nigeria: 500 More Widows, Divorcees for Kano Mass Wedding *
The Kano State Hisbah Board says it has concluded plans to marry off
another set of 500 widows and divorcees in the third batch of its mass
marriage program aimed at reducing the number of unmarried women in
the state.
allAfrica.com: Nigeria: 500 More Widows, Divorcees for Kano Mass Wedding

Hmmm.........are Kano babes Pretty....

I hope he can repeat similar feat in the area of job creation.

[emmanuel ewumi]

THIS IS A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION ON Nigeria Info 99.3

DISCUSS: The statement by the CBN governor Sanusi Lamido that the Federal Government should sack 50% of its workforce has been generating a storm of reactions, particularly from organised labour.
With most of them calling for his sack

Sanusi's argument is that Nigeria cannot build its economy when 70 per cent of its earning is paid as salaries and entitlements of civil servants.
Read the full story below & share your thoughts

CHUKS
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Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) Governor Sanusi Lamido Sanusi has advised the Federal Government to sack at least half of its workforce to maintain a sustainable economy.

In a presentation at the second Annual Capital Market Committee retreat in Warri, Delta State, Lamido said Nigeria cannot build its economy when 70 per cent of its earning is paid as salaries and entitlements of civil servants.

The CBN Governor also advocated a more compact and less expensive system of government that would reduce overhead and free up capital for infrastructure development.

He said: “At the moment, 70 per cent of Federal Government’s revenue goes for payment of salaries and entitlement of civil servants, leaving 30 percent for development of 167million Nigerians. That means that for every naira government earns, 70kobo is consumed by civil servants.

“You have to fire half of the civil service because the revenue government has is supposed to be for 167million Nigerians. Any society where government spends 70 per cent of its revenue on its civil service has a problem. It is unsustainable.”

Sanusi said the country does not need over 100 senators and about 400 representatives to make laws. He said when the expenses of lawmakers, civil servants and the executive arm of government are added, Nigerians will find out that the revenue has been consumed by government, lawmakers and civil servants.

[emmanuel ewumi]

Theas are Nigerians thoughts


Ivin Gray There is a problm with our leaders . The gap btw d rulers and ruled is so wide dt it is as if we are living on 2 diffnt planets. Always putting d horse b4 d cart,they banned Mai ruwa ind Fct b4 they repairs wz md on d water board,stopped Okada b4 alternative transportation wz introduced. Now they ar advocating d sack of civil servants b4 u tell us what u used d money dt comes frm d removal of oil subcidy 4? U sit in ur fancy house and fancy office in ur fancy suit and kw nothing about what Nigeria really needs sir.
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Nicole Oluchi i think he's right abt d lawmakers but civil sarvant no way
7 hours ago · Like
Kay Jimmy Fahmurewah well if God gave me an opportunity to be the president at this time i'll not do much but the next morning he'll get his letter to start wit,but all his effort is for nigeria to spilt.
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Olafusi Agape Kolawole The guy made sense jawe. We have to redefined our country to move forward. We are spending too much on frivolities esp our lawbreakers, sorry lawmakers and Executives. Some civil servants are so lazy and aren't contributing to our economy. Sanusi is right.
6 hours ago · Like
Kingsley Kachisidee i beg you to leave the aboki mallam alone, he is confuse along side his boss badluck
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Chibuzor Stanley Jwäx Okonkwo His suggestion is right n perfect, i tink its high time dat our pple realize dat d govt was neva set up to cater for our needs rather set to create orderliness, we wl only b recognise if we bcum job creaters n not job seekers n hopin dat d govt put fud on our table... So if d govt wnts to sack 50 civil servants dey shud go ahead bt create a system to train its pple on wealth creation
5 hours ago · Like
Godwin Uzy We are on top of the situation the presidency will always say.situation we no see na only dem we see. I still dey talk am ne day bush meat go catch the hunter: this revolution dey are calling for will definitely come someday.
5 hours ago · Like
Lawal Babatunde Kazeem U see they dont hav d interest of d masses at heart there masive unemployment they advocate 2 sack 50 percent if he did not know what 2 say he should just shut up
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Surajdeen Aderoju The quality of a nation is revealed by the quality of the leader God permits to govern them. Sanusi's statement is not d solution to this nation's problem but chaos. As an economist, he should understand that something u already have can create anything else u 'll ever want. May God lead us to the greater height.
4 hours ago · Like
Stanley Ifeanyi Onuba Nigeria's problem is not d size of civil servants rather,corruption,looting,embezzlement,planelessne s,squander mania.
4 hours ago · Like
Francis Ekeh Sanusi i one word u are God sent to nigeria..more grace to ur elbows big bro..i pray jonathan undastands u...GOD BLES U
4 hours ago · Like
Amolegbe Olayemi I support Sanusi
4 hours ago · Like
Gabriel Akwagiobe Sanusi is right bcos is as if dose salaries ar a west.
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Eshayovwe Ufuoma Kehinde Corruption is the problems of Nigeria and not civil servant salaries, also all the senators and the house of representative doing nothing but take home large shock of Nigeria revenue without doing nothing.These people should all be killed even if my father is part of them.they meant nothing for the youth at all
4 hours ago · Like
Dangiwa Danlami Actually the massess will be afffected but let us look a this from the economics perspective he is very rigth.we have corrupt leaders, God help us
4 hours ago · Like
Ohaeri Greg Ike mallam sanusi is making a very perfect point even all our political offices shud be make less attractive so the cabals and criminals that called themselves politicians will flee away from nig politice for elites and for people that have this nation at heart.
4 hours ago · Like
Alade Adedoyin Adejoke Let him take d first step by tendring his resignatory letter.federal civil servants cut accross all sectors.how about d millitary and para-millitarys even d forces and political post?how can someone think that taking food from somebody's mouth will profer solution to d nations problems?
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Emmanuel Fadayiro l fill Sanusi must be Mad for that statement with the problem the Country is facing right know , Now Work anywhere in the Country, people suffed a lot in all aspect. Only God can Suvived the Nation from Big problem that our so called Ex- President pull us to.
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Ohaeri Greg Ike A king cannot be more than a king maker lawmakers salaries shud be more than that of sch teachers and unv lecturers.
3 hours ago · Like
Ohaeri Greg Ike A king cannot be more than a king maker lawmakers salaries shud be more than that of sch teachers and unv lecturers.Even that of the so called Minisers and special Advisers.
3 hours ago · Like
Afolabi Olufemi Akinola D man should go 4 a brain check up cos of his recent advices are just bizzaring
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Kehinde Anu I blv evri1 av d right 2 say anitin dey lyk.sanusi isnt a gud but a bad person.who will feed and chatter 4 d sack workers.sanusi shld show a normal example by calin 4 a cut of abt 40% of his salary and dat of gudluck jonathan.i just pray dat d gud lord will save us 4rm dis wicked leaders governing us.
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[Picolena66]

Originally Posted by emmanuel ewumi

I hope he can repeat similar feat in the area of job creation.

Hmmm...........Now that would be a nice Gesture..

[nosa2]

Originally Posted by Waves

Surely it must have occurred to you looking at those customs officer they would prefer having a better paying and more engaging job than sitting and doing nothing on a job that pays peanuts as salary.

For an Economist, SLS comments are very silly. When Keynes said that during hard times, govt can hire people to 'dig holes and bury them' he wrote a long convincing thesis on the issue. Not sure SLS is much of an Economist

What Keynes was referring to was a temporary boost to the private sector not for government to become a permanent crutch.

[nosa2]

Originally Posted by migiets

Why won't people resort to talking about mothers and daughters and sisters and things... where the twitter activists have made up their minds a long time ago that nobody what she does and no matter the statistics given, she is incompetent. What baffles me is that there was no noise when OBJ was the Minister of Petroleum or when Rilwanu Lukman was the Minister of Petroleum.

Twitter wasn't so popular then

[eniyanman]

Originally Posted by babe!

what exactly are you guys supporting?

i dont want a welfare state but can you pls stretch your mind to the social and other consequence of sacking 50% of the civil service?

Taking in isolation i think Sanusi's statement is actually quite daft. my former cmd always relate a dr's salary to other cadre of staff-- something like
1 dr==1.5 pharmacist==2nurses==3 accountants(not including what they steal o) == 10 ward ordelies etc.(not entirely accurate!)

The point am trying to make is that it is just plain stupid calling for sacking of 50% of the civil service without specifying exactly the quantitative reduction in recurrent expenditure that will be derived from such exercise.

Perhaps sacking him and a few other inept ministers will give a better result.

I don't think it's possible to reduce the civil by 50% (at least not in one fell swoop). In any case, I think we should focus on the essence of SLS's statement, which is a drastic reduction in recurrent expenditure. This will be achieved by cutting waste, including the number of LGAs, states, NASS, ministers and civil service. We have a situation where we have underemployment in the civil service. Many are not earning a living wage so government work simply provides an avenue to illicit gains. It also artificially improves the employment figures.

Originally Posted by Babs_O

Look at our statistics improving with oil money. And yet some pips sponsor adverts to nail the minister of petroleum. See contribution of petroleum to our bottomline. We need more transparency which she supports. If true records from the oil industry over the decades can be made available I wont be surpised she is one of the best oil ministers.
· Revenue rises 15% above budgeted N5.6 trillion.
· H1 spending 21% less than budget.
· Oil makes up 71% of H1 revenue.

She wants more transparent yet more discretion. Discretionary concessions and awards of licenses. How is that transparent?
What was the oil benchmark in the budget? What was the average price of oil? Definitely more than 15% of the benchmark price. I would have thought a fair comparison would have been the actual volume of crude oil sold to the budgeted value. In any case, we lost $7B to crude oil theft last year. How did this compare to the year before?
I don't really know what to make of the H1 spending being below budget if they didn't achieve all they planned to do. They might as well have achieved only 50% of their goals with 80% of the budget. I don't think DAM can take credit for oil making up 71% of H1 considering we lost $7B to oil theft.

Originally Posted by nosa2

What Keynes was referring to was a temporary boost to the private sector not for government to become a permanent crutch.

Couldn't agree more. Keynes' focus on how govt could kick start the economy during a downturn. So form of stimulus package.

[knightofdelta]

Originally Posted by Born 2be rich

If we dont learn the attitude of developing and maintaining all our infrastructures and facilities in this country we will never have anything working..Pity she died but i dont think is the hospitals fault..

She is a sickle cell patient and to my own knowledge, she should have stopped child birth after her 2children...It was a risk she took giving birth to the third one..

Originally Posted by horlads

Is dis a medical rule? Doctors, kindly advise...

Wong statement made by Born 2be rich...

[waaan5]

Originally Posted by eniyanman

Interesting choice of words. How is she an Oil and Gas professional? Please tell us? In any case, what matters is she has badly handled her ministry. She is a national liability and she should go. That's accountability. This is a woman who has been indicted since 2009.

PS, she's spent more in laundering her image with web adverts than any minister in this country. She has a credibility problemand she knows it.

Bro, DAM was indeed an O&G professional before she became a minister. She is not incompetent as far as O&G issues are concerned having put in over a decade of meritious service to the industry before she was called upon to serve the nation as a minister.

We should separate our personal dislikes from basic facts. Fact is that DAM knows the industry very well having been an insider for many years, and fact is that many people want her to continue the good job she is doing. A vast majority of nigerians i believe see her as a national asset; and i can understand that some may see her as a liability, but one cannot pls everybody.

[hispy99]

Ojukwu wills estate to Bianca

[Born 2be rich]

Originally Posted by knightofdelta

Wong statement made by Born 2be rich...

Women who are pregnant with sickle cell have more frequent sickle cell crises due to the extra stress of pregnancy.

I was able to curl this out http://www.estronaut.com/a/pregnancy...ell_anemia.htm. explains allitle.

Never said sickle cell pregnant mothers shouldnt give birth to as many children as they want though, what i said is that it was very risky health wise...

[waaan5]

Originally Posted by Waves

Surely it must have occurred to you looking at those customs officer they would prefer having a better paying and more engaging job than sitting and doing nothing on a job that pays peanuts as salary.

For an Economist, SLS comments are very silly. When Keynes said that during hard times, govt can hire people to 'dig holes and bury them' he wrote a long convincing thesis on the issue. Not sure SLS is much of an Economist

Bro, I do not think so. The Keynes is one school of Economic thought. There are others like the classical and neoclassical economic thoughts. Some people (like me and I think sls) think the Keynesian school of thought of Big government is an anathema to true capitalism, and is unsustainable in the very long run.

[nosa2]

Originally Posted by waaan5

Bro, I do not think so. The Keynes is one school of Economic thought. There are others like the classical and neoclassical economic thoughts. Some people (like me and I think sls) think the Keynesian school of thought of Big government is an anathema to true capitalism, and is unsustainable in the very long run.

What Keynes advocated isn't anemic (Abeg this english correct) to capitalism but Nigeria isn't practicing what he preached, what we're doing is called "Bribus Militrus".

Essentially the military government bribed the educated class with plum, unnecessary government jobs and fuel subsidies in order to have peace and loot, and the opportunity cost of this? Capital Development. And like any junkie would tell you, cold turkey is a b*tch but a necessary one.

[dr dowell]

Originally Posted by Oracle

Oga Babe, try and go to immigration office in Abuja and you will see what SLS is talking about. In one office, I saw like 20 officers crammed together in just 1 room. They were sitting shoulder to shoulder.No space! If you are standing on the little space kept as aisle and someone comes in, you will either tell the person to wait for you to get out first so that he/she can come in or you will get into a tight corner inside an officer's sitting area so that the person would pass. Common, this is unsafe.

And do you know that they are all doing the same thing? You will not believe it.

it gets so worse such that when you bring ''work'', like 4 of those jobless officers will tell you that they are doing the ''work''. Imagine settling such number!

An assignment I want you to do is: Go to any immigration office close to you,enter any of their offices and tell me what you see.

We all are basical saying the same thing in different forms. Do you know people pay to agents to be employed what is that corruption. This people do not what to know if the ministry has over employed or not all this has to do with corruption. If you sack 50% I assure you that the space will still be filled as long as the main problem which is corruption has not been tackled. I want to ask a question why are we afraid of tackling corruption? We always look for alternative route of tackling our problem when ever corruption is involved. If you can solve corrupt problem most problems in our country will be solve.