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Old 27th November 2012, 03:21 PM
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The foreign investors will increase their stakes in the company by issuing a convertible bond in their own favour., And the bond will be issued in dollars or pounds.
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Nobody, but the Nigerian investors. if Nigerian investors will stand up and fight, you will find out that the plan will not materialise.
if they are buying on the floor of the exchange people can choose not to sell
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if they are buying on the floor of the exchange people can choose not to sell
That is why they will not buy on the floor. Buying on the floor can make the price of the stock to move to about N60. Increasing your holding from about 45% to 80% is not an easy task, especially if you want to do it on the floor.
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The foreign investors will increase their stakes in the company by issuing a convertible bond in their own favour., And the bond will be issued in dollars or pounds.
for now they don't have the simple majority, so they can't make that decision on thier own. The question is, does the company need the fund and what do they need it for?
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With 80% stake in the company, they can afford to do and undo. The next stage is for them to delist the company from the exchange. If shareholder activists, can put their acts together, the foreign investors may not succeed with their plan.
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The parent company is actually investing the money by buying up shares to increase its stake from 46% to 80%. They are just going to take away more profits from Nigeria, while not investing to expand operations of the company. As a Nigerian investor I think this is not positive.

It is not good for the Nigerian investors and the economy as a whole.
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Old 27th November 2012, 03:56 PM
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for now they don't have the simple majority, so they can't make that decision on thier own. The question is, does the company need the fund and what do they need it for?
That is why, I said if the other investors can come together and fight, the plan of the foreign investors will not materialise. But they can plan to denominate the right issue or convertible bond in foreign currency. That is when they will capitalise on the investors that can not raise the funds in the foreign currency.

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That is why, I said if the other investors can come together and fight, the plan of the foreign investors will not materialise. But they can plan to denominate the right issue of convertible bond in foreign currency. That is when they will capitalise on the investors that can not raise the funds in the foreign currency.
This is too risky for nigerian investor. If they want to increase their exposure to nigeria, they should convert to naira
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This is too risky for nigerian investor. If they want to increase their exposure to nigeria, they should convert to naira
It is deliberate, they don't want the average investor to take part in the fund raising.
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It is not good for the Nigerian investors and the economy as a whole.
Why?
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Default Re: Glaxo Smithkline

it is time for those who have the money to invest and the patience to wait for like six month to rake the profit GSK would generate.
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it is time for those who have the money to invest and the patience to wait for like six month to rake the profit GSK would generate.
read oga emma post. There would would be no rally. If there were to be, it would have started

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Why?
A situation whereby some foreigners want to take over a company through the back door is not good enough. The money needed for the expansion can be raised in Nigeria by the current shareholders or Nigerian Institutional investors.
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read oga emma post. There would would be no rally. If there were to be, it would have started

There could be a short term rally based on the information, but i don't see a sustainable rally. The foreign investors will not buy on the floor of the exchange, they will rather invest more money in the company which will be later converted into shares.

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There could be short term rally based on the information, but i don't see a sustainable rally. The foreign investors will not buy on the floor of the exchange, they will rather invest more money in the company which will be later converted into shares.
The rally has happened already....check it's performance this quarter. It will cool off today...
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The rally has happened already....check it's performance this quarter. It will cool off today...

Is it performance as per share price, or financials.
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Is it performance as per share price, or financials.
Share price na...abi wasn't it a rally in share price that was being discussed..???
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The rally has happened already....check it's performance this quarter. It will cool off today...
i guess insider information has fool some people
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A situation whereby some foreigners want to take over a company through the back door is not good enough. The money needed for the expansion can be raised in Nigeria by the current shareholders or Nigerian Institutional investors.
If you call what GSK did "thru the back door" then what'll you you call the OANDO deal, GSK has done nothing wrong and I don't even see any adverse effect to the economy in fact it's bringing in much needed FDI.
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I just read the public announcement from GSK in today's punch that they want to increase their holdings to 80%. They hope to buy from investors at N48 per shares.
There are some legal terms in the notice that may require legal advice.
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