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The issues are little more complex than this. Although cost of production may be high in Nigeria, for Dangote Cement factories (BCC aside), the difference with foreing companies is not much. Energy (as you rightly mentioned) is the most important cost component in cement production and Obajana runs mainly on Gas like most of the foreing based firms. Ibese is also designed as such. My brother, few Cement companies in the world have EBITA margins above 50% like Obajana. The other important cost component in cement is Transportation. But since this affects both Imported and local cement, it is not an issue. By the way, how many Cement manufacturers enjoy 5 year tax holiday?

Lafarge factories (Ashaka and Wapco) are a different issue. Recently, i did some work with the board of Ashaka Cement and can tell you that Ashaka and Wapco face a different cost structure not only because Lafarge (like most french firms) is a very inefficient company but also that those French guys are busy skimming money out of these companies through many phantoms fees and useless projects. All this issue of houses, buses and hospitals are not very significant.

The issue with Ibeto is a long standing that started from Obasanjo's regime. Neither of the parties is telling the whole truth. Is not the same Dangote that bought and closed Savannah Sugar factory in Numan that is importing raw sugar from Brazil for Dangote Sugar Refinery. Ibeto is simply an opportunist trying ace the system the way Dangote did while Dangote is trying to throw away the ladder after climbing.

By the way, with the way last years budget was implemented and the falling GDP growth rate, it may well be the case that we have more of a falling demand issue than that of over supply.
Thanks bro....you have said it all! I have been struggling to build a hostel in Enugu for the past 3 years. Infact worked stopped since feb last year. I also know a couple of friend with the same constrait.

Clearly demand has dropped due to lower incomes. I expet these cement guys to lower their prices, afterall they all declared fantastic results at their 3rd qtr results
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Wishful thinking.I still don't see the CBN reducing the rates yet!
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Importers are still importing because it is CHEAPER to import than produce in Nigeria considering the infrastructural challenges in Nigeria and the subsidy available to foreign producers.

WAPCO is complaining! Ashaka's production is small and their market is further away from the importers. Not sure if UNICEM has ramped up to full capacity but they are not immuned.

Local producers cannot sell below their cost of production. They are becoming 'more efficient' by shutting down 'older' plants and facilities where possible.

Again, we need to decide whether we want to grow the manufacturing base or we want to continue to create cabals whose only business is importation while adding little or no value to the economy!

When job losses start, people's eye will clear. That's how we destroy the Textile sector creating massive unemployment in the North!
If Dangote is crying about low sales and glut, why are they still releasing a 27% turnover increase forecast for the 1st qtr of 2013...some one is not telling us the truth!
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Dangote Cement Forecasts N42 billion Profit After Q1, 2013 - Nigeria Business News
Again, what will likely happen is to close factories that are more expensive to operate while shifting production to the less expensive plants.

Dangote is ramping up production in the new plants.Dangote

Note though that forecast is nothing!
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allAfrica.com: Nigeria: Quality of Statistics Poor in Nigeria - World Bank

Hmmm..........With All the Men and Women of knowledge we get for the country ready to tell u how many MBA's and PHD's they have, oh well back to basics 1+1 = 2.........and so on and so on
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Dangote Cement Forecasts N42 billion Profit After Q1, 2013 - Nigeria Business News
na who describe forecast as "forgecast"? oh yes, it was oga Oracle
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Dana Air resumes flight operation today
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Hmmm..........With All the Men and Women of knowledge we get for the country ready to tell u how many MBA's and PHD's they have, oh well back to basics 1+1 = 2.........and so on and so on
Kai! See as Sir Pico just wired all the PHDs and MBAs in Nigeria with one slap!
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For a market that is already doing 28000, 30000 mark is quite easy to achieve. However, what we should watch out for is the sustainability. It is a futile effort trying to predict the direction of the market. For Value Investors, just continue your continual valuation and constant scanning of opportunities in the market. I'm glad Sir KOD has joined the long-term boat. All the speculations about the CBN reducing the interest rates are mere speculations or wishful thinking by Economists. Going by the antecedents of SLS and his team and with the National assembly already passing a budget above the benchmark set by the executive, I still do not see the interest rates coming down in Q1 as envisaged.Also the politicking for 2015 will soon start. I will like to see SLS proving me wrong though.
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kai! See as sir pico just wired all the phds and mbas in nigeria with one slap!
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Who ever thinks that SLS will reduce MPR is living in a fools paradise. He will rather increase it. However there is nothing new under the sun. Mean while 4 months to go.
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allAfrica.com: Nigeria: CBN - Nigeria Among Countries to Shape Global Economy
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Projections will always be projections. He who fails to plan, has already planned to fail. 7 years to 2020, can we check what had been achieved in the laid down guidelines?

For those interested in the Global 2030 projections: http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/G...rends_2030.pdf
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